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Planning Commission Minutes - April 12, 2011



APRIL 12, 2011

A Regular meeting of the Charter Township of Chesterfield Planning Commission was held on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 at 7:00 p.m. at the Township Hall Located at 47275 Sugarbush, Chesterfield, MI 48047.


Chairman Miller called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.


Present: Paul Miller Excused: Carl Leonard

Joe Stabile

Paula Frame

George Deeby

Ray Saelens

Rick LaBelle

Brian DeMuynck

Others: Patrick Meagher, Township Planner


Motion by Mr. DeMuynck, supported by Ms. Frame to approve the agenda as presented.

All Ayes Motion Carried

4. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT: (Committee will report items under Reviews)



A. VALERO GAS STATION PROPOSED NEW GROUND SIGN #2011-10: Hardy Sons & Sign Service, Inc., 22340 Harper Road, St. Clair Shores, MI 48080. Proposed new ground sign located at 56955 Gratiot. Tabled 3-29-11

Motion by Ms. Frame, supported by Mr. Deeby to approve Sign #2011-10 and Sign #2011-11 with a variance for the setback and a variance for the second sign additional 13 square feet due to the location, the setback and the angle of the intersection.

Mr. Deeby did ask for the address to be included with the sign variance.

Ms. Frame agreed and indicated that she did speak with the applicant regarding that and they are in agreement.

Mr. Deeby continued his support.

Mr. LaBelle asked if this is contingent upon the other sign coming down.

Ms. Frame responded correct. The applicant is aware of that.

Vote On The Motion:

All Ayes Motion Carried

B. VALERO GAS STATION PROPOSED NEW GROUND SIGN #2011-11: Hardy & Sons Sign Service, Inc., 22340 Harper Road, St. Clair Shores, MI 48080. Proposed new ground sign located at 56955 Gratiot. Tabled 3-29-11

See Agenda Item A Above.

C. HOLIDAY INN PROPOSED NEW GROUND SIGN – SGN #2011-14: Lakeside Hotels L.L.C., 1040 W. Hamlin Road, Rochester Hills, MI 48309 – Proposed new ground sign located at 45805 Market Place Blvd.

Ms. Frame stated that she explained to the applicant that they already have two existing wall signs that they were granted, which was a variance for the second wall sign in lieu of the PUD agreement, which only allows for one, but they requested two wall signs and gave up the monument sign at that time.

Pamela Montgomery stated that the reason that they are requesting the monument sign at this time is because with the recent addition of the Hampton Inn and the angle that it is built at, when you are coming off of Hall Road onto Market Place you can no longer see the Holiday Inn. They feel that with the addition of a marquee sign on Market Place that would allow their hotel to at least be visible.

Mr. Saelens asked if they would be removing one of the wall signs.

Ms. Montgomery responded that was not discussed. She is here representing someone that was supposed to be here this evening, but they got call out of town for an emergency meeting. She could discuss this with him. She does not know if that would be their first choice.

Mr. DeMuynck asked if the Hampton Inn is blocking the wall sign.

Ms. Montgomery responded it is blocking everything; you can’t even see the hotel at all.

Ms. Frame indicated that the Hampton is not blocking any of their signs. They have a sign that faces Market Place Blvd., and they have a sign that faces Gratiot. They also have a monument sign at Hall Road as you enter Market Place Blvd., and from Gratiot as you enter.

Ms. Montgomery indicated that she has been to the hotel several times and she has not even noticed those signs. Being uncomfortable driving in the traffic in this area that is the last thing she is looking for – a small sign at the entrance to the Blvd.

Mr. Meagher explained that part of the PUD agreement included signage for that particular area, the Walmart Center in general. As part of that PUD agreement the onsite monument signs were limited to 24 square feet of signage. That might be something else to look at when considering a trade off of some type. At that time the monument signs at Gratiot and at Hall Road were allowed to be extremely large. The idea was that they would gain attention from those signs.

Mr. Deeby indicated that he would have no problem with this if they came back with one wall sign reduced in size from what they currently have, eliminating the other one, and then they would be allowed the 24 square foot monument sign. That would be in compliance to the original PUD.

Motion by Ms. Frame, supported by Mr. Saelens to table Sign #2011-14 per the applicant’s request for up to 6 meetings, with the deadline being July 12, 2011.

All Ayes Motion Carried

D. EVERGREEN EXTERIORS PROPOSED NEW WALL SIGN - #2011-15: Keith Ives, 34875 23 Mile Road, Chesterfield, MI., 48047 – Proposed new wall sign located at above address.

Motion by Ms. Frame, supported by Mr. Stabile to approve Sign #2011-15.

All Ayes Motion Carried

E. ACHATZ PIE PROPOSED NEW ADDITION AND TRUCK DOCKS – SITE PLAN #2011-01: Stevens, Architects, 209 Huron Avenue, Port Huron, MI., 48060 – Proposed addition to existing industrial building along with addition of truck docks located at 30301 Commerce Blvd.

Ms. Frame stated that they are requesting the addition of the truck docks on the east side of the building. The only issue that we are looking at is that they will need a variance from the ZBA to complete this project.

Mr. Saelens asked if the two refrigerated trucks will be gone with this new addition.

Leroy Stevens responded yes. Right now they have jammed up their operation so they have some temporary trailers out there that they use for storage.

Mr. Saelens commented that there were some pallets lying around and it looked a little unkempt. He would like to see it neater. There are diesel fuel tanks out there.

Mr. Stevens replied that the two storage trailers and the diesel tanks that run the trailers are all temporary. He can talk to them about cleaning up. They would like to do this addition because they are really full inside.

Motion by Ms. Frame, supported by Mr. Saelens to approve Site Plan #2011-01 subject to getting a variance from the ZBA, which is being recommended by the Planning Commission.

All Ayes Motion Carried

Mr. Meagher noted that the recommendation to the ZBA is based on the fact that they do have a double frontage location there within an area that has multiple zoning, M-1 and M-2.


Motion by Ms. Frame, supported by Mr. Deeby to approve the minutes from the March 29, 2011 meeting as sent.

All Ayes Motion Carried


Mr. Miller noted a letter received from McDonald’s on 23 Mile Road, which will be added to their file.




Mr. Meagher stated that Ms. Giese will make a correction to the Garage Ordinance and then publish it for the Public Hearing. He also noted that we will address the Wind Energy Conversion Systems Ordinance at next month’s meeting.

Marquis Jewelers and Hallmark Moving of Signs:

Motion by Ms. Frame, supported by Mr. Deeby to allow Marquis Jewelers and Hallmark to move their existing signs to their new locations.

All Ayes Motion Carried


Ms. Frame asked for volunteers for the next pre-planning meeting.

Mr. Saelens and Mr. Stabile agreed to attend.

Mr. DeMuynck asked if we would still allow accessory buildings with the new Garage Ordinance.

There was brief discussion with regard to accessory buildings and garages.

Mr. Meagher suggested that we could put an exclusion in the ordinance that if you have a four car garage you lose your right for a 120 foot shed, and if you have a three car garage you are allowed to have a shed. We will discuss that further at the Public Hearing.



Motion by Mr. Miller, supported by Ms. Frame to adjourn the meeting at 7:27 p.m.

All Ayes Motion Carried

Paula Frame, Secretary

Christine A. Hunyady, Recording Secretary

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